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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:37 am 
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We are first time full-timers and I wanted to know if we have to use the furnace or if we can simply use electric heaters while we have FHU? I am worried the tanks might freeze as it is in the 10s and 20s in temp this week. Any help would be appreciated.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:13 am 
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Welcome to the forum.
Where are you located?

What we did when we had our 337RLS set up in a private CG in VA was to use one of those portable oil filled radiator heaters in the living area.
I also had 2 100w bulbs in the basement and in the utility area of the basement on all the time.
Remember when NOT using the furnace you are not getting heat into the underbelly where the holding tanks and water lines are.
A small heater in this area would be needed if not using the furnace.

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Doc, if you put an electric heater in the basement, will it still keep the tanks and water lines warm?

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It will keep the areas around the tanks and water lines warmer, but depending on how cold it is and for how long, pipes along the outer edges may still have a problem.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:53 am 
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We have used the oil filled radiators (some have timers which are really useful) to supplement the furnace heat and keep the living area more comfortable, but as Doc pointed out, you should try to keep the furnace running from time to time because the trailers are designed to move some of the furnace heat down into the lower areas of the unit to keep the tanks from freezing.

Back when I got involved with RVing it was kind of a big thing to add heat strips to the holding tanks. Not sure but I think some of the manufacturers include these now.

One other thing, many of the CG owners now prohibit their full-time tenants from using electric heaters. Seems to be an area of abuse where there is a flat-rate for electric for the month.


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I agree with the other posters. You really need to use the furnace to keep the belly warm. Using smaller electric heaters for "spot heating" is ok, but not "instead of" the furnace. Also, although your furnace does use a lot of propane, it is still cheaper per btu than electric heat. Even if You set the furnace at a little lower than "comfortable" temperature, and use small spot heat electric heaters where you are standing or sitting, if your spot heaters put out too much heat, the furnace may not run often enough to warm the belly.

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I'm not a full timer but I never use my furnace. I try to heat exclusively with electric heat.
I do believe every rig is a bit different so beware if you try this at home. But my rig is good down to the low 20's with electric heat only, providing it goes above freezing during the day.
For things to freeze you need no/zero heat and freezing temperatures for a straight 24 hour period.
If the living area has heat, residual warmth will radiate into the basement area simply because the cabin is not airtight.
THat is not to imply the basement will be warm but it will be warm enough to keep things from freezing.

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This is the problem I have, say I set the thermostat at 60 degrees. Well the electric heaters and the fire place keep it so warm in there that the furnace never kicks on, so if I ever feel I need to run the furnace to warm the underbelly, I have to adjust the thermostat to get the furnace to kick on.

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Doesn't sound like a bad problem to have, J. :mrgreen:

And yes... sometimes our hobby requires critical thinking, logic, and impeccable timing in between beers.

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Well said Mark!

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Ok, all you experts out there. We can use some help, in our 3X427BHS - we use the furnace, I have no issue going through propane - I have three tanks and I am putting a gauge on each. However we cannot seem to get the back bunk house to heat up. I am going to try and put some covers on the furnace outlets in the front of the trailer, let me know what you think.


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First make sure you feel AT LEAST a little air flow coming out of the floor vent. If you don't feel any at all, then the duct probably came loose and needs to be reattached. If you're feeling air flow, then you need a space heater. It's the nature of the beast. Once I put in one of the Home Depot $20 ones in mine, it made a world of difference. Can actually get too warm in there.

I also put a fireplace in on the center island. Between that and the space heater in the back, I'm good to around 28 degrees without needing the furnace.

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There is minimal insulation in the bunk house. The entire area is mostly slide out walls with minimal insulation Heating it will always be a challenge. Take BCM's advice and get a space heater. What little heat the furnace can flow back there escapes fast

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I have a 2015 318RLS. I full time in it in Eastern oregon. I have been full timing for 4 years now. This last week+( and often,although the places vary) I was out of the country in South America. It has not gotten above freezing here for a few weeks now. This is the system I use, i've never had a problem. But test/try prior to trusting( as me how I know..)

I have 2 Lasco tower heaters- ( i have been using the same models for 7years, usually get 2 seasons out of them)

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I have one placed in between the chairs set to 68, I have one in the bedroom set to 70. ( the usually keeps the coach at 71ish +/-
The coach thermostat is set to 65. and a small heater with thermostat is in the passthrough facing the water heater/ hoses with the little access door open it is set to 55. I do have these monitored with an alarm. I have outside,fridge,basement and inside monitored. They can all have alarms set separately for temp or humidity.

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The electric heaters keep everything warm, if i loose power or they can not keep up the propane furnace kicks on to save the day. Skirting does help as well if you wanted to go that route. I actually just used a roll of reflectix its a few inches too tall so the tension hold its secure to the coach/ground bent in a ( C ) fashion.

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