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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:56 pm 
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We're about to order this rig from highland ridge and upon further inspection it looks like with everything in the truck we will be around 6 or 700lbs over my payload capacity. It will be under the maximum weight of rear axle and under max weight of the tires I have on the truck also. Just wondering if any fellow Ram 3/4 ton owners pull being a few hundred pounds over rated payload? I've done quite a bit of modifications to my tv and I don't want to have purchase a 3500 on top of purchasing our new tt. I know this is a touchy subject and I'm not trying to break any laws here. Just looking for any advice or recommendations to keep my truck and still be able to use the same tt.

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If you are calculating your weights based on the notoriously low brochure weights and add in the weight of the PP you may be a bit heavier than you think.
A 200-300 hundred pounds no big deal, close to 1000 over is reason to reconsider.

You can add air bags, timbrens and gizmos but they will not increase your weight ratings. Before spending too much on after market add ons. research how much trading for the correct truck will cost.
The TW of the trailer will be in the 1500# range which is quite a load.

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Go to the Ram website, they have the specs for the Ram trucks, it is many pages long. Select 2014.
You need to know model, engine and trans.
Go through the chart and find your truck, there you will have all the information you need including the max trailer weight and max combination weight.
I carry a copy in my truck.

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Doc wrote:
Go to the Ram website, they have the specs for the Ram trucks, it is many pages long. Select 2014.
You need to know model, engine and trans.
Go through the chart and find your truck, there you will have all the information you need including the max trailer weight and max combination weight.
I carry a copy in my truck.

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Yes sir, I've had that information saved as a pdf on my.phone for a long time now. I'm now looking into getting a Ram 3500 Megacab. My 2500 just doesn't have the payload I need.

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The RAM specs for my 2015 2500 Crewcab 4X4 short bed diesel says the maximum tow weight isaprox 17k lbs. I don't see anywhere there is a pin weight for the bed of the truck. My trailer is aprox 10k lbs.

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The RAM specs for my 2015 2500 Crewcab 4X4 short bed diesel says the maximum tow weight isaprox 17k lbs. I don't see anywhere there is a pin weight for the bed of the truck. My trailer is aprox 10k lbs.

Earl, there should be a sticker in your door saying what the max payload is allowed. That includes the pin weight, people, dogs, food, and fire wood or anything you put in the truck. There is also a max rear axle weight rating which used to depend on tires, rims and axle bearings.

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hsp440 wrote:
Doc wrote:
Go to the Ram website, they have the specs for the Ram trucks, it is many pages long. Select 2014.
You need to know model, engine and trans.
Go through the chart and find your truck, there you will have all the information you need including the max trailer weight and max combination weight.
I carry a copy in my truck.

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Yes sir, I've had that information saved as a pdf on my.phone for a long time now. I'm now looking into getting a Ram 3500 Megacab. My 2500 just doesn't have the payload I need.

I have a 2014 Ram 3500 MegaCab 4x4, Cummins & Aisan Trans.
Max tow is 16850 Lbs. Combined wt is 25000 Lbs.

My new 3X 388RKS GVWR is 16450 Lbs so I am 400 Lbs under the max tow wt for a trailer, I am thinking of getting a 2019 3500 dully.
Keep in mind the 3500 SRW diesel is only available with a 3:42 rear, that is another reason I am looking at a new truck with a 3:73 rear.
With the short bed of the MegaCab I have an autoslider hitch.

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Rigdon, here is my door sticker. I actually have 265 ties instead of 275 like the label says.


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Earl I looked at a Ram truck site which was showing 2,500-2,700 lbs for payload after doing the math for it. I haven.t seen a sticker like that before but I currently have a Ford and before that GMC's. My BIL loves his 2500 Ram plus a 95 gal aux fuel tank in the bed with the Cummins and he pulls some heavy trailers or his SOB TT with it but he lives in flat land.

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hsp440 wrote:
Doc wrote:
Go to the Ram website, they have the specs for the Ram trucks, it is many pages long. Select 2014.
You need to know model, engine and trans.
Go through the chart and find your truck, there you will have all the information you need including the max trailer weight and max combination weight.
I carry a copy in my truck.

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Yes sir, I've had that information saved as a pdf on my.phone for a long time now. I'm now looking into getting a Ram 3500 Megacab. My 2500 just doesn't have the payload I need.


Do you follow the Cummins forum? 3500 Mega's have some sort of resonance problem maybe or maybe it is just some very dissatisfied owners but it bears considering.

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using the ram body builder documents here is what I find:

This first number below is from the slide-in camper guide. Here they take your GVWR number, than calculate in a max passenger load to tell you the remaining capacity. This is useful because you never know how many people may end up being loaded in your cab.

REMAINING CARGO (lbs) 1258. (not 100% sure because truck seems to be listed 3x, each with different numbers, this is highest number)

this next set of numbers is from the same body builder website in docs named Base Weights/GCW/Payload/Trailer Tow

crew cab, short box, 4x4
6.7 cummins, auto, 3:42 rear, GVWR 10K.
Payload 2230. (you must include passengers in this number!)
base weight total = 7773, front = 4824, rear 2949.
GAWR front = 6000, rear = 6500. GCWR 24000, max trailer 17060

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I know my maximum trailer weight is around 17k pounds and my trailer only weighs about 10k lbs. I was just curious what the pin weight would be for my trailer. It seems that a 5th wheel and a TT for that matter should have a pin weight no matter what truck you have. I would think that the pin weight of a trailer should be stamped on the trailer somewhere. I know when loading up your RV I could be carrying Mercury in my front storage causing a very heady pin wheel. Shouldn't be a average best condition pin advertise for all 5th wheels ands TT's?
I guess the only way to get my pin weight is to get the total weight of trailer when its connected to truck from the total weight of the trailer when the trailer is not connected?

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Pin weight:

Weigh truck alone front and back axles. Weigh truck and trailer connected all axles. What ever weight is added to your rear axle of the truck should be your pin weight.

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My 2014 ram 2500 cc 4x4 has a payload of 2180 per Ram's spec sheet. Then I started doing the math and I'll be way overloaded.

my wife, my kids, and my dogs weight = 535lbs
leer camper top = 200lbs
decked bed storage system = 200lbs
my tools to go in the decked system = 300lbs
Me in my truck, full of fuel, and with the leveling kit, bigger tires, airbags, airlift compressor system, roll n lock bed cover, b&w gooseneck underbed plate with gooseball, and whatever other junk I got in the truck = 8660lbs
3p hitch = 200lbs
328bhs tongue weight empty = 1280lbs ( per website )

Total weight not including me and the truck the way it sits full of fuel = 2715lbs
Then add in me and the truck and I'm sitting at 11,375lbs and that puts me way overweight. I'm under the max weight of the axles but way over my payload. We're looking at full timing for a bit and traveling, so I don't want to run into issues with the law if something happens. My truck will pull 17200lbs per the spec sheet but the low payload has got me in a bind. Very frustrating. I'll probably get a 3500 CC 4x4 then that looks exactly like my 2500. I don't want problems with a megacab. I don't want a dually either because this will be my everything truck for going around town also. Harder to park, rougher ride, and I have to buy 6 tires instead of 4. Lol

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hsp440 wrote:
My 2014 ram 2500 cc 4x4 has a payload of 2180 per Ram's spec sheet. Then I started doing the math and I'll be way overloaded.

my wife, my kids, and my dogs weight = 535lbs
leer camper top = 200lbs
decked bed storage system = 200lbs
my tools to go in the decked system = 300lbs
Me in my truck, full of fuel, and with the leveling kit, bigger tires, airbags, airlift compressor system, roll n lock bed cover, b&w gooseneck underbed plate with gooseball, and whatever other junk I got in the truck = 8660lbs
3p hitch = 200lbs
328bhs tongue weight empty = 1280lbs ( per website )

Total weight not including me and the truck the way it sits full of fuel = 2715lbs
Then add in me and the truck and I'm sitting at 11,375lbs and that puts me way overweight. I'm under the max weight of the axles but way over my payload. We're looking at full timing for a bit and traveling, so I don't want to run into issues with the law if something happens. My truck will pull 17200lbs per the spec sheet but the low payload has got me in a bind. Very frustrating. I'll probably get a 3500 CC 4x4 then that looks exactly like my 2500. I don't want problems with a megacab. I don't want a dually either because this will be my everything truck for going around town also. Harder to park, rougher ride, and I have to buy 6 tires instead of 4. Lol

I'm not suggesting you need a dually but most of your claims concerning a dually vs. a comparable SRW are myths.
6 tires vs 4 is correct, but the rest is folk lore...LOL

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My friend duallys absolutely ride rougher than my 2500 but I can't compare to a 3500 SRW because I haven't rode in one or drive one. The other issue I said about finding parking is true. I see duallys all the time using 2 parking spaces where I live in Houston or they drive around in circles trying to find enough room to park. I know the stability is a lot better with a dually. I've considered them in the past but just thought they were too wide. Always afraid someone would hit the side of my truck driving down narrow roads. Lol. I might look into them again. I really like the way the megacab dually looks. Always have

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