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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:28 pm 
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Been lurking and trying to get educated. In the near future we will be full timing in a 2017 3x427BHS. We've Rv'd before, however never towed. I am looking for some guidance on tow vehicles. I have zero brand loyalty and am in the process of looking/researching used pickups. What I am finding, as I use the 427's GVWR (16,300) as guidance, is that not many non-dually's will fill the bill. I'm not against a dually, but am surprised as some of the older F-350 SDs fall short. We are a family of 5 and a dog. Am I missing something or is this just a crazy heavy 5th wheel? Sorry for the totally newb questions, just don't have a lot of experience to pull from. Thank you!


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I have a 2014 427 non-3X and pull it quite comfortably with my 2011 F350 turbo diesel short bed non-dually. However, I rarely have more than just me and the dogs in the truck when towing, so we're comfortable. My wife generally brings her own vehicle and the occasional kid or two. You have a lot of family to fit in the tow vehicle... that alone adds to the curb weight. My 2014 is also much lighter than the new 3X. Good luck on your search. All of the big three have towing spec sheets on their sites. Definitely study them a bit.

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A dually will be more stable when towing.
I would say a diesel is a must.
One thing to consider is the pin weight and what is left over to fill the truck, equipment, kids and dog etc.

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Thanks for the replies. Kids/dog/wife will likely be traveling in separate vehicle so it's less of a consideration. Just primarily focused on towing.


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Payload capacity will be a concern. If you want to avoid a dually you will need at least a 2011 or newer truck. 2011 was the year the big 3 beefed up their frames and raised their towing capacity.
With that said if I were buying a truck to tow a 16K GVW 5'er. I would focus on duallies only.

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And definitely a diesel.

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Having just gone through the extensive information needed to make a good decision on buying a fiver and a new tow vehicle, I can tell you unless you decide to go with a non-diesel 4x2 low trim level, you're pretty much stuck with a dually. The payload rating of a brand new F-350 4x4CC diesel SRW will be at most around 3900 lbs. As the trim level gets higher, the payload falls. I just ordered an F350 and expect a payload sticker of around 3400 pounds. That will fit my set up well, with a pin weight of less than 2800. For you, looking at a pin weight of over 3000, add in a few hundred pounds for the hitch and you're gonna be over right quick. Get a dually. You'll be way happier in the long run. Unless you absolutely never plan to climb a hill. Then a SRW gasser with 4.10 gearing might work. But it limits you.

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Go diesel, go dually and call it a day with no worries about being over loaded.

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JDK1, your research for the most part gave you your answer: the DRW is your truck of need. That point aside, most of us went thru our personal learning curve and wound up buying the DRW truck. I didn't say all but most.

X2 for what raineyj32 said.

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X3 on raineyj32
just returned from 18k mile trip and very pleased with my dually diesel

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:52 pm 
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Thanks all- appreciate it....


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jkckhall wrote:
just returned from 18k mile trip and very pleased with my dually diesel


18K mile trip!?! Wow. Where did that take you?

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So there is a used 2012 Ford F-350 Lariat Super Duty dually (Long Bed, 6.7L V8 32V DDI OHV Turbo Diesel) for sale. Relatively low miles (57k). Any thoughts or known issues? Looks like 5th wheel towing limit is 21,500 lbs.


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I pull mine with a 2011 F350 diesel shortbed SRW with no issues. That truck will definitely pull it comfortably.

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I pull my 2017 3x427BHS with 2015 F350 Diesel short bed and have no issues. Just finished a 1600 mile trip and was very pleased. AVG 9.4 MPG for entire trip which included many miles thru the mountains of VA, TN, KY and WV. My trailer loaded for 10 day vacation didn't bust the 16300 weight, was more like 15,700. I added airbags when i installed the Companion gooseneck ball to be on the safe side for level towing. I typically only need 10-15 lbs of air to level the truck back out.

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Dplude wrote:
I pull my 2017 3x427BHS with 2015 F350 Diesel short bed and have no issues. Just finished a 1600 mile trip and was very pleased. AVG 9.4 MPG for entire trip which included many miles thru the mountains of VA, TN, KY and WV. My trailer loaded for 10 day vacation didn't bust the 16300 weight, was more like 15,700. I added airbags when i installed the Companion gooseneck ball to be on the safe side for level towing. I typically only need 10-15 lbs of air to level the truck back out.


Not to steal the thread but I have the same hitch. How hard was it to install the air bags with that bracket for the turnover ball mounted to the frame. You can PM me if you want so we are not stealing the thread.

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