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Been thinking about installing an auxiliary fuel tank in the truck before heading out to the TX Rally.
I have searched this thread and most of the post are old and for F250/F350 trucks.

My truck
2014 Ram 3500 MegaCab short bed SRW
5er prep with the Reese ISR picture frame
PullRite 2900 Auto slider
I have about 13 inches from the bed bulkhead to the picture frame mounts
I use a tonneau cover when not towing the 5er and the bed side wall is about 20 inches high


I have several questions/concerns.
Has anyone installed a tank or tool box/tank in a 2013 - 2015 Ram with the 5er prep and using the picture frame ISR?
How was the install of the T into the truck fill tube, what kit did you use? This is my biggest concern
There has been too much snow and ice around here to crawl under the truck to check how the T will work :-|
What tank did you use, manufacture and gal., and is it below the bed rails?

Any pix would be helpful.

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A much better bet would be to take out the OEM tank and put in a Titan with extra capacity. Everything works like stock. The one in the link would add 18 gallons of capacity to my truck. Really don't need it.

https://titanfueltanks.com/shop/fuel_ta ... er-series/

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I did the transferflow replacement on my Ram, pricey at 2k but sure works good

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I did the rds with fill t. On my ford. Worked flawless. Gravity feed. Left the valve on always and just kept the main tank full. Really a nice product.
Now. Thought I would put it in my 2014 ram. They make the same fill tube made for 2013 and newer ram. Big problem was the rds tool box tank combo would not fit. Wheel wells to far forward on this short box. Be fine on a long box. I did find a few tanks that will work but haven't picked up one yet.
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TTFullTimer wrote:
A much better bet would be to take out the OEM tank and put in a Titan with extra capacity. Everything works like stock. The one in the link would add 18 gallons of capacity to my truck. Really don't need it.

https://titanfueltanks.com/shop/fuel_ta ... er-series/

Looks good but will not fit a 2014 Ram.

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How about this one: http://www.attatank.com/products/AT45RBR.html

DIMENSIONS: 15" tall x 12" wide x 60" long
BED TYPE: Short & Long bed Ford, Dodge, and GM

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Doc I used the 45 gal RDS tank it fits below the rails and the RDS install kit wasn't to hard once I got the OEM rubber line loose. I bought it at a Northern Tools store but it is the same tank as this one on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Vertical-Diesel-F ... nsfer+tank
Same price also. The install kit was cheaper on Amazon than in the store.

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Doc wrote:
Been thinking about installing an auxiliary fuel tank in the truck before heading out to the TX Rally.
I have searched this thread and most of the post are old and for F250/F350 trucks.

My truck
2014 Ram 3500 MegaCab short bed SRW
5er prep with the Reese ISR picture frame
PullRite 2900 Auto slider
I have about 13 inches from the bed bulkhead to the picture frame mounts
I use a tonneau cover when not towing the 5er and the bed side wall is about 20 inches high


I have several questions/concerns.
Has anyone installed a tank or tool box/tank in a 2013 - 2015 Ram with the 5er prep and using the picture frame ISR?
How was the install of the T into the truck fill tube, what kit did you use? This is my biggest concern
There has been too much snow and ice around here to crawl under the truck to check how the T will work :-|
What tank did you use, manufacture and gal., and is it below the bed rails?

Any pix would be helpful.

Thanks
Doc

Doc, I think the installation of the T fitting may be least of concerns, although not familiar with the RAM truck filler neck. RDS has filler neck T and supplies the rubber hose to connect. I found the hoses to be too stiff, so merely was able to cut a piece of section of the OEM hose, slip the T fitting in and clamp it. Easier to cut the OEM hose.

My RDS tank did not fit on floor of bed of the truck, the corners sat on the bottom radius of the bed. So blocked it up a lil bit with corners of tank resting on those radius corners.

Fuel hose - pay attention to the selection of fuel hose, should you have to supply any. I used 3/8" hose thru out, for better flow. From what I recall, the key is "fuel injection" hose, and that to be compatible with diesel fuel. I did have regular fuel hose, but later found seepage, as the hose rubber was "breaking down". Had to change out a few small pieces, since I have the solenoid valve & fuel filter/separator setup, as oppose to constant gravity feed. When you do decide on a tank, consider a fuel/water separator filter package too. Good insurance IMHO.

We found that having a AUX tank to be a blessing. Our Ford F250 has a rather small tank of 26 gals. Shame on Ford. The longer bed models have 37 gal size.
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dewatkins wrote:
How about this one: http://www.attatank.com/products/AT45RBR.html

DIMENSIONS: 15" tall x 12" wide x 60" long
BED TYPE: Short & Long bed Ford, Dodge, and GM


If you go this route, speak with Nick only at ATTA. Brad is the owner but Nick in the man that knows what is going on. He has been great to work with.

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I have the Transfer Flow Tank/toolbox combo.I don't have the dodge but I have had this tank in 3 different chevy's and have had to only by the controller for each truck. It is totally automatic all you have to do is fill it up and the controller does everything else. Mine is a 40 gallon tank with toolbox on top and the whole things sits at or just below the bed rails. I had mine installed bya truck business that does addons and custom installs.Dave

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Just ordered a 46 Gallon Auxiliary Tank made by Aluminum Tank Industries, Inc.
http://www.atitank.com/
Tank - AUX46T with the T install kit AIK 175D
The cost was $525 including the T install kit for the new Rams.
Dimensions 57" L x 16.5 H x 12 W Add 2.5" for fuel cap height
This was the best price for the size restrictions I had, Max of 14" for width due to the mounting frame for the 5th wheel.
Ordered through Ringo Hill Farms Equipment Co. in Quakertown PA.

ATI is located in Winter Haven FL, should have picked it up when I visited Jerry and Sue :!:

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Good deal, Doc. Betcha can't wait to get it installed.
Do consider a fuel/water separator filter. Good insurance to filter and separate water, if any works it way into the tank.
I use a Racor small unit that flows 30 GPH. Gravity feed does not flow a lot or fast. So expect that.

Racor filter housing like this one - http://www.amazon.com/Racor-Micron-Dies ... 000Filters

Then get the longer filter that flows more, like 30 GPH, then save the shorter filter for back up.

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Good deal, Doc. Betcha can't wait to get it installed.
Do consider a fuel/water separator filter. Good insurance to filter and separate water, if any works it way into the tank.
I use a Racor small unit that flows 30 GPH. Gravity feed does not flow a lot or fast. So expect that.

Good luck.

The truck has a water/fuel filter at the tank and another fuel filter at the engine.
I will see how much room I have to put one.
The Ram frame is a box frame so it is hard to find places to mount anything.

I see that that filter is only 15GPH, I was looking at installing a 30GPH fuel pump.
How will they work together?

We just got another 9.5 inches of snow so will not be under the truck any time soon. :-x

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Doc wrote:
Just ordered a 46 Gallon Auxiliary Tank made by Aluminum Tank Industries, Inc.
http://www.atitank.com/
Tank - AUX46T with the T install kit AIK 175D
The cost was $525 including the T install kit for the new Rams.
Dimensions 57" L x 16.5 H x 12 W Add 2.5" for fuel cap height
This was the best price for the size restrictions I had, Max of 14" for width due to the mounting frame for the 5th wheel.
Ordered through Ringo Hill Farms Equipment Co. in Quakertown PA.

ATI is located in Winter Haven FL, should have picked it up when I visited Jerry and Sue :!:

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This is perfect. Will fit under my cover too. Thanks for the research and great info. When I get home I think I'll order this.

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Doc wrote:
COTHAMM wrote:
Good deal, Doc. Betcha can't wait to get it installed.
Do consider a fuel/water separator filter. Good insurance to filter and separate water, if any works it way into the tank.
I use a Racor small unit that flows 30 GPH. Gravity feed does not flow a lot or fast. So expect that.

Good luck.

The truck has a water/fuel filter at the tank and another fuel filter at the engine.
I will see how much room I have to put one.
The Ram frame is a box frame so it is hard to find places to mount anything.

I see that that filter is only 15GPH, I was looking at installing a 30GPH fuel pump.
How will they work together?

We just got another 9.5 inches of snow so will not be under the truck any time soon. :-x

Doc

There is a taller filter cartridge that flow more than 15 GPH. That's what I have. Once upon a time I had a elec fuel pump, one that pumped more than 30 GPM, and it did OK with that filter. I removed the pump after I decided to just put back the SOV so I can turn on/off flow, and let it rip like that. Major hassle to have both pump and SOV working in unison. Pump has a flow thru design,meaning I had to turn on a ball valve to permit flow. If ball valve opened, it flowed just a well thru the pump as if the SOV was there anyway. So I took pump out for simplicity. Have just the fuel filter and SOV. Fuel filter upstream of SOV. That filter has a clear bowl, with manual drain, and a port for water sensor, if one opts for one.

I am using micron >2-3 to enhance flow to main tank. I think have 30 micron filter, a tall one. It will still filter and trap water. Looking to stop the larger particles, if any from going into the main tank. With diesel fuel pump stations having the OPW nozzles open and oily, greater chance for contamination right there, fuel going right into the tank(s).

The SOV is a ASCO valve, 12VDC, 3/8 NPT, but has 5/8" internal orifice. This puppy not a flow restrictor at all. Uses 0.9 amp energized. All hoses are 3/8 ID. Flows good for intended purpose! I setup valve manifold with bypass valve to T-fitting just in case SOV or filter fails, and I can keep on trucking.

And Doc none of this mounted to the frame. Rather I made 1 bracket that mounts to a flange part of the bed bucket.

Update: SOV selected - http://www.grainger.com/product/ASCO-Br ... t%3Dsubset

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