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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:26 pm 
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When I first saw the photo I thought it was a joke....one really bad idea....

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:15 pm 
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You are not reading my post correct. I said I only had 8 gallons of gas. Now how much do you carry when you go to the gas station and carry gas back home for your mower or don't you mow your grass? I didn't drive cross country, at least the last time I drove 160 miles it didn't seem like it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:27 am 
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Obviously 8 gallons isn't as bad. But there is still a risk. You keep using the mower example/comparison. In order to get gas for the mower one has no choice but to use a portable can to go local and get gas.
When towing an RV using portable cans is not required or necessary. There are options for additional gas that don't involve portable cans.
If I were in your scenario I would bite the bullet and get a proper tank or just stop to refuel. Portable cans would not be a solution for me due the risk factor. Too many what ifs involved in towing a trailer already. Adding loose gas cans into the mix is a recipe for total disaster.
Unfortunately there is no such thing as a small gas explosion or fire. It is a no brainer for me. I don't want to do anything where explosion is the potential result.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:28 am 
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While it may seem like you are getting pig piled I think the points being made are valid. I understand exactly what you are saying about the inadequate fuel tank size on that truck, its an engineering fail to put a tiny tank on a truck that is marketed to tow. I feel your pain, I dropped almost $1200 on my titan tank, I dont know of a gasoline equivalent, let alone what it would cost.
I have seen people standing in the middle of a puddle of diesel fuel smoking cigarettes and have also seen people burned badly from a 1/2 cup of gasoline. While I dont dwell on it, I have seen some ugly things happen and certainly would never want anyone I know to suffer in a similar way.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:34 am 
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I agree with most of what you guys are saying. First: the cans are strapped down and don't move. I just want enough gas to get to a station that I can pull into to get gas. Too many stations have their pumps lined up like Speedway. I just don't think even one of you could pull a 33 foot trailer into a Speedway and get your fuel and get out without a lot of problems. Last year I pulled into a "truck stop" and couldn't even use any of their pumps. That bothered me thinking that I might run out of gas and I didn't want that to happen.

Yes I know what can happen with a gas fire. A friend of my son died when he was burned at the age of 12. He threw some gas onto a fire and it came back at him and he was burned.

Again, I have seem more "bad" wrecks in the city limits than on the highway. I like to think I am a very careful driver when pulling the trailer. I drive at a "fast" 55 to 60 mph. I think the people that pull at 70 and 80 mph are asking for trouble.

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Last summer I used a similar setup to carry fuel for my F150 and 297. I did not think I had enough room in the bed for an aux. tank. There is no gas cap for the F150 tank, just a trap door in the inlet. To add fuel from a can you insert a small funnel. This really slows the fueling process. Since I am old, it is also difficult to hold a full 5 gallon can of fuel to pour it in the tank. I balanced the can on the top of a small ladder while my wife held the funnel in place. Only did this once.

Using portable gas cans--not safe, not convenient, bad idea.

Returned home, traded in my F150 on a F250 diesel, added a 45 gal. aux. tank for about $500. Will never tow again with a gas engine truck.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:36 pm 
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tparr wrote:
I agree with most of what you guys are saying. First: the cans are strapped down and don't move. I just want enough gas to get to a station that I can pull into to get gas. Too many stations have their pumps lined up like Speedway. I just don't think even one of you could pull a 33 foot trailer into a Speedway and get your fuel and get out without a lot of problems. Last year I pulled into a "truck stop" and couldn't even use any of their pumps. That bothered me thinking that I might run out of gas and I didn't want that to happen.

Yes I know what can happen with a gas fire. A friend of my son died when he was burned at the age of 12. He threw some gas onto a fire and it came back at him and he was burned.

Again, I have seem more "bad" wrecks in the city limits than on the highway. I like to think I am a very careful driver when pulling the trailer. I drive at a "fast" 55 to 60 mph. I think the people that pull at 70 and 80 mph are asking for trouble.



Flying J will always have gasoline at the RV pumps, I try to stop there, even if its not my trucks favorite fuel, just because of the convenience of all they have.

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cgoodnight wrote:
Last summer I used a similar setup to carry fuel for my F150 and 297. I did not think I had enough room in the bed for an aux. tank. There is no gas cap for the F150 tank, just a trap door in the inlet. To add fuel from a can you insert a small funnel. This really slows the fueling process. Since I am old, it is also difficult to hold a full 5 gallon can of fuel to pour it in the tank. I balanced the can on the top of a small ladder while my wife held the funnel in place. Only did this once.

Using portable gas cans--not safe, not convenient, bad idea.

Returned home, traded in my F150 on a F250 diesel, added a 45 gal. aux. tank for about $500. Will never tow again with a gas engine truck.

Robert

Robert, saw in another posting you sold the 297, have another RV. Man has to do what is best for his case. Good to see you frequent this OR Forum, regardless. And hope your new RV serves you well.
Yes, to carry gasoline fuel in a container in back of a truck bed is a risky proposition. IF an accident and fire, consider insurance impact too.
Safe travels. :-)

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I have an 01 GMC, GASSER, considering an aux gas tank. Found out the alum tanks for diesel will NOT be shipped to calif. (Oh to live in calif) I can buy an18 gal gas tank but wondering how to plumb it in. Federal law says no gas by gravity flow. Diesel filler "necks" are larger then gas so that leaves out some of those options. Any ideas?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:20 am 
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burgie wrote:
I have an 01 GMC, GASSER, considering an aux gas tank. Found out the alum tanks for diesel will NOT be shipped to calif. (Oh to live in calif) I can buy an18 gal gas tank but wondering how to plumb it in. Federal law says no gas by gravity flow. Diesel filler "necks" are larger then gas so that leaves out some of those options. Any ideas?

Sorry, but - Diesel?

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Remember, the originator of this thread, said, in not so many words: "cheap Alternative." He did quote the $850 figure. I think the reason why some many have commented is because, we all want to be safe!! We all want the others on the road to be safe. As safe as I try to be, I don't want it to be me, but it might be the other guy that is going to ruin my day.

My option was not cheap. Two years ago, I paid more that the $850 figure. I purchased the Transfer Flow 45 gal. replacement tank for my standard 26 gal tank in 2007 Silverado Gasser. You may want to check it out. It is quiet heavy; I pre-arranged the install with a local accessory shop and had it shipped there. Upon delivery, Installed that afternoon. I thought this was the best option at the time. I am now ready to purchase a 2015 GMC diesel. Then I will look at replacing that Std tank, or getting as auxiliary tank or both.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:20 am 
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Just ran across this information (aux fuel tank requirements) for anyone interested.
https://www.transferflow.com/regulations


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:06 pm 
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Way I see it, smacks of Transfer Flow stuff.
Visiting other mfr of aux tank web sites revealed different set of rules.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:34 pm 
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I was rear ended in Texas last February with two 5 gallon plastic containers full of gas in the bed of the truck. I was hit by a construction truck on I 37 just North of San Antonio. I was pushed off the road and down an down a steep bank . The trailer broke loose and both the RV and truck rolled. The two gas cans were still in the bed of the truck when they turned it back over. No gas had leaked out. If the containers are properly secured I think it is safe to carry them this way.


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wsill wrote:
I was rear ended in Texas last February with two 5 gallon plastic containers full of gas in the bed of the truck. I was hit by a construction truck on I 37 just North of San Antonio. I was pushed off the road and down an down a steep bank . The trailer broke loose and both the RV and truck rolled. The two gas cans were still in the bed of the truck when they turned it back over. No gas had leaked out. If the containers are properly secured I think it is safe to carry them this way.

Based on your description. I'd say you were more lucky than safe.
Either way it's is an example of why I would never carry gas in that manner.

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Way I see it, smacks of Transfer Flow stuff.
Visiting other mfr of aux tank web sites revealed different set of rules.


I called a place out of state, they wouldn't even send it to Calif? Some of us can't afford or want diesel buy gas.

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