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 Post subject: 5er lift kit
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:16 am 
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Anyone come up with a method of lifting the back axles to level things out? My new TV will have even higher bed rails so I'm going to 'lift' the hitch by 3". That will surely result in a nose high 5er. I put SRE 4000 and Wet Bolts last year and the springs are already under the axle. My only thought was to add an extension onto the existing shackle mounting bracket...but then, I'm no engineer. Anyone done this or am I breaking new ground? I hate with I do that with heavy things that move at high speeds.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:48 am 
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The Correct-track system will lift your camper about 2"?

https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Suspen ... 87220.html

I changed my equalizer from a EZ-Flex to a Equaflex one - that gave me about a 1.5" lift addition compared to what I had from the factory.

https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Suspen ... 79688.html

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:07 pm 
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I'm truly not sure how the Mor Ryde effects the equation but now that you have it I think you need to use steel spacers or blocks to create a sub frame to get your lift.
I used the correct trax kit to get 2" and larger tires to get another 3/4". But that was with the stock suspension although I do have the heavy duty Equaflex kit.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:14 pm 
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Check out this thread
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Not sure how the SRE 4000 plays with Correct Track. Is that the one with the bars that extend across the width of the camper (like stiffening bars)?

I have a wet bolt kit and upgraded Shackles as well.

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Thanks. I'm really trying to plan this out but I suppose I'm just going to have to wait until I take delivery of the new TV and measure it up in the driveway. I'll have more time to do it accurately but suffice it to say the front end of this setup will be higher and so the back end will have to lift as well. How much lift will determine if I can simply bolt on Correct-Track or if I need to weld up a sub frame. I'll also have to factor in just how much 'nose high' is acceptable. Always something.

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not sure if it was a a typo, but you said your springs are under you axle. if your move the axles under the springs you gain the width of the axles in height. and you don't "flip" the axles since there is camber built into the. Dextor makes a kit with new U bolts and saddles no welding required.

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You can lower the back end of your truck as well. The Ford forum has multiple people lowering the back by removing the spacer that is OEM and changing it to a 2" spacer. Now, this doesn't change your bed floor to bed rail height, and I've heard the Rams have the tallest rails of the big 3. So, lowering your heiny may not help with a Ram. But it seems to help with Fords and GMs(no direct knowledge of this).

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Typo towpro. I get all the words out and then put them in order to make sentences. Doesn't sense make always. A bit like a dyslexic Yoda.

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what are you going to for a new truck? I thought my 2015 Ram 3500 Dually 4x4 was about as tall as they got.

I can get my fist (4 fingers) between bed and bottom of camper in picture. and next time I move it I will raise the hitch 1 bolt hole as the rig appears to be just a little low in front here.

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I'm moving from my '12 RAM to this '18 Denali 3500 SRW I saw. Like the inside. Like the Duramax / Allison setup. Like the deal we worked up. I dont take delivery till April so I'm just lining things up so to speak.

I didnt measure the bed height to the ground so your 15 RAM may be taller. I was focusing on the bed to bed rail height and the clearance I'm going to lose. I'll have less than 5", way too low for me. I'll probably end up with the PullRite 3" lift kit on the Super Glide Hitch and then measure how far off from level I am when connected. That'll determine if I need to raise the back end of the trailer and by how much. Maybe go with the Lippert Correct Track that Mark and Lantley mentioned above. I'm ok a little nose high but just a little. More concerned about evenly distributing the weight.

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The reason I did not purchase an open range fifth wheel,was that issue.

With my Ram truck the rails and the bottom of the fifth wheel,were 60" from the ground. I would have to raise the pin 4" or more. Wanted taller tires and 2" blocks for the axles.

I contacted the factory with the standard three solutions to gain height. Bigger wheels. Blocks for the springs and welded devices. Correct tract.

Their advice? All void the warrantee! All added height, I. E. Adds clearance.

They would not lift the trailer for me. No way.

I think their feeling was out of level,is no big deal.

As I found out no 3/4 or 1 ton trucks side rails were much shorter. Had to go to a half ton.

I thought all was saved when they went to the standard correct tract. However, they lowered the fifth wheel so the height was the same.

Bought my second choice with 63 inches of clearance. With the truck squat it should be near level.


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Tomkatb wrote:
The reason I did not purchase an open range fifth wheel,was that issue.

With my Ram truck the rails and the bottom of the fifth wheel,were 60" from the ground. I would have to raise the pin 4" or more. Wanted taller tires and 2" blocks for the axles.

I contacted the factory with the standard three solutions to gain height. Bigger wheels. Blocks for the springs and welded devices. Correct tract.

Their advice? All void the warrantee! All added height, I. E. Adds clearance.

They would not lift the trailer for me. No way.

I think their feeling was out of level,is no big deal.

As I found out no 3/4 or 1 ton trucks side rails were much shorter. Had to go to a half ton.

I thought all was saved when they went to the standard correct tract. However, they lowered the fifth wheel so the height was the same.

Bought my second choice with 63 inches of clearance. With the truck squat it should be near level.

Sort of disturbing that Highland knows there is an issue, But is reluctant to do anything about it.
May if more of us would purchase SOB they would get the message.

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I think SOBs have the same problem from what I have seen going down the road.

What size tires are on the new truck?

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I have an email from OR saying I could put the Correct Trac on my 17 Light, with no warranty issues.

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What bothered me was the fact that a lot of manufacturers have raised the fifth wheels to accommodate current 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. A lot have not.

In trucks I think the 1 ton two wheel drive duallys are the lowest.

Although it is probably ok to tow with the nose high 4 inches. I see a lot of them.

I actually purchased the Ram with 18" instead of 20" tires.


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